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Auto Repair Estimates – Part 4 – How To Get Paid For What You Do

January 12, 2010 by Donnie Smith 2 Comments

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Get Paid For What You Do
If you write auto repair estimates for a body shop and you’re not looking though all of your not included items in your p-pages, you are leaving a lot of money unclaimed.  These are operations that must be performed to complete the job.  Therefore, the shop and the technician should get paid for it.  

What Do Insurance and the IRS Have In Common
Insurance companies are a lot like the IRS.  There are many things that the insurance companies are willing to pay for just like the IRS has many tax saving benefits for businesses.  However, if don’t ask for it, neither one of them will offer to give it to you.  I am not saying that the insurance companies will pay you for everything you ask for, but it is certain you will not get paid for the operation if you don’t ask for it. There may be as much not included time on a part as the time given to R&R it.  Let’s take a look at an example.

The P-Pages
If you google Motor Guide to Estimating, you will see the p-pages for CCC Pathways.  There, you can see the included and not included items for each operation.  If you look up a front fender you will see this listed:

Included Operations Include

  • Align to vehicle
  • Fillers (if mounted to fender)
  • Cornering lamps (if mounted to fender)
  • Fender liner
  • Scoop
  • Side marker
  • Side repeater lamp

Non-Included Operations Include

  • Antenna
  • Bumper R&I
  • Battery
  • Emblems & nameplates
  • Grille
  • Header panel
  • Hood Inner panels
  • Lamp aiming
  • Mirror
  • Moldings
  • Mud guard
  • Road wheel
  • Spoilers & flares
  • Stripe tape, decals or overlays

Ask Yourself
If you are a new estimator, you need to get this list out and go over it for every part that you are replace.  Ask yourself if any of the not included item are required to perform in the specific job that you are estimating.  For instance, on the fender above ask: Will I have to R&I an antenna?  If the fender has an antenna add time for it on the estimate.  If not, don’t add it.  Next, ask yourself if you will need to R&I bumper to replace the fender.  If you will, add the time.  If not, don’t add any time for it.  Go through each item on the non-included list and ask if this task will be required.  

Increase Shop Profits

Now you can see the amount of money that you may leave unclaimed on each panel.  Many of the non-included items will need to be performed on each fender you replace.  Of course, you would only add what applies.  You would not want to add time to R&I hood, if you do not need to remove the hood to R&R the fender.  Look over the list on each panel that you estimate and add what applies to the estimate.  If a fender pays 3.0 hours, you may be able to add an extra .5 to 1.5 or more hours of non-included operations.  This will lead to major profit for the company and technician at the end of a day.  Who know how much .2 or .3 for every emblem you replace may add up to at the end of one year.  

Tell A Story
The key is to list each item separately.  You need to tell a story with your estimate and it needs to be easy to understand. If you try to bulk or clump items together, chances are the insurance adjuster may refuse to pay. 


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Some Insurance Companies have treated Body Shops like Dumb and Dumber.

March 28, 2009 by Butler--BCRN 1 Comment

Dumb and Dumber is a “dumb” movie, but it’s one that you’ve gotta like.  One of the scenes reminds me of the way some insurance companies have treated body shops.  

This is a scene of Lloyd and Harry in Aspen, CO in the freezing cold without any money to get a hotel room.  Lloyd is nice and warm with two pair of gloves on, while Harry is freezing to death and can’t even feel his hands.  When Harry discovers that Lloyd had two pairs of gloves the whole time, he is ready to kill Lloyd.  
Well, in this analogy, Lloyd is like some insurance companies.  They are making profits and doing well.  Harry is like the shops, trying to make ends meet, while dealing with some insurances, which try to strip and cut any evidence of the shop’s profit. 
I believe the end of the video conveys the main point of this blog post.  This is where Harry becomes very angry with Lloyd.  I believe that many shops have had it with insurance trying to reduce shop profits.  Or some insurance companies trying to steer their customers to shops that will  work cheaper.  
This is not fair for the shops that do not want to cut corners and do the job correctly.  Insurance should not steer customers to their direct repair shops to increase their profit.  Insurance companies need to learn how to share like Lloyd did in the video.  It’s time to “share the wealth.”  
Not all insurance companies are this way.  Therefore, you may shop around when considering car insurance.  
Here is the scene from the movie.

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