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Auto Estimating – What Is An Auto Estimate – Lesson 1

April 16, 2014 by admin 4 Comments

LESSON 1 – LESSON 2 – LESSON 3 – LESSON 4 – LESSON 5 – LESSON 6 – LESSON 7 – LESSON 8 – LESSON 9 – LESSON 10

Welcome to Auto Repair Estimating.  These lessons are designed to provide you with the basics to Auto Estimating.  I hope you enjoy the lesson.  Donnie


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Lesson 1 – The Auto Repair Estimate and Setting Up The Work Environment.

Estimates Are More Than Labor, Part, and Supply Costs

“Organization is what you do before you do something, so that when you do it, it is not all mixed up.” — A.A. Milne

2013 NATEF/ASE tasks: B6 – A:1 Position the vehicle for inspection. HP-G


Video Overview

This a a video overview over lesson 1.


 


What This Lesson Covers

This lesson covers what an auto estimate and a supplement are, how they are generated, who needs auto estimators, and provides tips for setting up an estimating environment.

Why This Is Important

As an estimator, it is important to fully understand what all purposes the estimate serves.  It’s also important to properly set up the estimating environment to become efficient at generating thorough auto estimates.

Topics Covered In This Chapter Include:

• Auto Repair Estimates

• Supplements

• Methods Used To Write Estimates

• The Sequence of Writing an Estimate

• Who Needs Estimates

• Setting Up The Estimating Environment

• Tools Needed To Generate Auto Estimates

What Is An Auto Repair Estimate


videoscribe.pdf estimateAuto repair estimates are called different names, including damage report, damage estimate, and auto estimate, but they are all basically the same thing.  A damage estimate, however, is more than just a sheet of paper listing the total cost of repairs.  An estimate is a contract or a mutual agreement between two people.  As with real estate, the owner and buyer must agree on a price and sign a contract of their agreement.  An auto damage estimate is done the same way, as there should be an agreement between the repair shop and customer, and the customer should sign the agreement to authorize the repair shop to repair the vehicle. 

One thing the estimator must explain to the customer, which is often misunderstood, is that the total amount is just an estimate.  Auto repair estimates do not guarantee the exact amount of the final invoice.  There may be hidden damage, parts price adjustments, or many other factors that may change before the vehicle is completed. 

As an estimator, it’s your job to have excellent communication with the customer.  You need to let the customer know that the estimate is subject to cost adjustments.  You must also help the customer understand that the estimate or signed agreement is only good for items written on the estimate.  If any additional work is needed, you will need to contact the customer and agree on the new amount.

Supplements

When additional charges need to be added, the estimator will need to generate an additional estimate.  This is called a supplement, which may include additional parts or labor as needed.  As mentioned, the estimator must contact the customer to let them know the amount of the supplement. 

An accident usually results in a claim with an insurance company.  Therefore, if there is a claim, the estimator is also responsible for communicating with the insurance company.  I am not going to get into how to deal with insurance companies, as the procedures each insurance company follows differ from one to another.  If you represent a direct repair program (DRP) with an insurance company, then there will be specific procedures to follow when submitting a supplement. 

This book is focused on the relationship with the customer, because the customer who brought their vehicle to your repair shop trusts that you will properly repair it to its pre-accident condition.  The customer is also the person who will continue to use your body shop for their collision and painting needs.  So always put the customer first and strive to provide stellar service and customer satisfaction.

Once the customer and insurance company agree to the additional supplement charges, the repairs can continue.  The final invoice will include the charges of the original repair estimate and the supplement.

Methods Used To Write Estimates


Auto repair estimates used to be written by hand using Mitchell (or other publishers) estimating guides.  This involved writing all the damage on an estimate form and looking in the estimating guide to get all the parts prices and labor times needed to estimate the job.  Then the estimator would calculate the total.  Computer-generated estimates have simplified and fazed out most handwritten estimates, but when learning how to estimate, I believe it is crucial to learn all the basics first, which requires estimating guides, a blank estimate form, and a pen.  Learning to handwrite estimates is the foundation of becoming an effective estimator.  Just as every house or building must have a strong foundation, an estimator must master the basics first.

The Sequence Of An Estimate


Most estimating guides and computer systems are set up with the same sequence—starting with the front bumper and ending with the rear bumper.  This is important to know as you want to write the estimate in the same order.  For example, if you are writing an estimate on a vehicle that has damage on the front end, start with the front bumper and move toward the back of the vehicle one part at a time.  The sequence also moves from the outside toward the inside,  for instance, front bumper cover, front reinforcement bar, front grille, right front fender, etc.  When you use this guide, it will be easy to follow along when adding the prices and labor times.

Who Needs Estimators?


IMG_1974Every collision repair shop will need someone to write estimates for its customers.  The body shop manager may generate the estimates at smaller shops, while bigger shops may have more than one estimator.  I have also heard an estimator referred to as a customer adviser.  The estimator meets the customer, generates damage estimates, works closely with insurance companies, and keeps everyone updated on the repair process.  Having good communication skills is very important.

Insurance companies also need the assistance of estimators.  When you generate auto repair estimates for an insurance company, your title may be auto estimator or auto appraiser.  Appraisers may generate their own estimates, or they may inspect the damage and agree to the body shop’s estimate.  Procedures for authorizing repairs will differ with each insurance company. 

Setting Up The Estimating Environment


As with any work environment, it’s important to have the correct working environment when inspecting vehicles and generating estimates thoroughly and efficiently.

I remember when most estimates were written out in the parking lot, and some shops may still do it this way.  If the estimating area is set up correctly, however, it will help produce thorough estimates with minimal supplements. 

Lighting

Good lighting is very important when inspecting a vehicle.  Whether you have a covered area, a stall inside the shop area, a separate shop, or are out in the parking lot, you need to be able to see the damage clearly.   Regardless of how good the lighting is (shop lighting, sunlight, etc.), there will be areas of the vehicle that are hard to see.  A flashlight will help you see these dark areas.

Underneath Inspection

Many times the estimator will need to inspect underneath the vehicle.  Ideally, a stall with a lift will be available, which will allow the estimator to inspect and measure the underbody, suspension, and other components under the vehicle if necessary. 

If you do not have a lift, then have a creeper, floor jack to raise the vehicle, and jack stands to secure it.  Raising the vehicle will provide more access to inspect damage below.

Organized Work Area

The auto estimating area must be well organized, clean, and provide an easy work flow to move cars in and out.  All tools and supplies should be easily accessible.  It would be unprofessional and take unnecessary time to walk through the shop looking for a floor jack or a screw driver.  Accordingly, an organized work environment is key when it comes to inspecting and generating auto estimates.

Tools Of The Trade

The tools an estimator may need vary depending on the repair shop’s standard operating procedure (SOP), but some common tools are shown below.

Camera

The estimator will need to take photos of the damage.  Photos help others see what the estimator sees; they tell a story.  Photos are documentation to prove the extent of the damage to the customer and the insurance company.  Photos of the overall damage and photos of each individual damaged part will need to be taken. 

I have used my iPhone to take photos of damage, but according to Larry Montanez of P&L Consulting, photos need to be of high quality, and smart phones do not produce the quality needed.  You may consider upgrading to a digital camera that can zoom in on the damaged parts and produce a high-quality photo.  One good thing about purchasing a digital camera is that the expense is over once you have bought it.  I remember using 35 mm cameras and having the film developed, which was quite expensive. 

Another good feature with most digital cameras, including smart phones, is that a video can be recorded for later reviewing or sharing with the customer or insurance company if needed. 

Flashlight

I mentioned this earlier, but a flashlight or droplight can help you inspect hard-to-see damage.

Hand Tool Set

The estimator probably doesn’t need a roll around toolbox loaded with tools, but a few basic tools will be needed, including wrenches, sockets and ratchet, and screwdrivers.  In addition to the basic hand tools, a few trim tools for removing clips will also be useful.

Paint Mil Gauge

A paint mil gauge is needed to determine the paint thickness on parts that need to be painted.  Inspecting paint and paint mil thickness will be covered in lesson 2.

Body Filler Gauge  

body filler gaugeA body filler gauge works best, but a magnet may be useful to inspect and determine if parts have had previous body filler applied.  Locating body filler too thick may require additional labor.  More information for inspecting for previous body filler will be covered in lesson 2.


Measuring Devices

tram gauge.001This is an example of a tram gauge used for point to point measurements.

Measurements may need to be made during the inspection process.  Tools used to measure include tape measure, tram gauge, ruler, and possibly a computerized measuring system to fully analyze the damage.


Scan Tool

A scan tool may be needed to check error codes that may have been caused from the accident.  This can be check engine light, airbag, etc.

Estimating and Procedure Guides

The estimator will need estimating guides or an estimating computer system for labor times and prices for parts.  Most shops now use estimating computer systems.  Different systems are available, but the three major systems include CCC One, Mitchell, and AudaTex.

Collision repair procedure guides or online databases for OEM-recommended procedures need to be accessible to determine repair methods required for each make and model of a vehicle being worked on.     

Office Supplies

The estimator will need pens, notepads, and blank estimates or whatever method the shop uses to record data during the inspection process.  Depending on the estimating system and the standard operating procedure of the repair shop, an electronic device may also be used to record such data. 

Computer and Phone

The estimator will need a computer or an electronic device to generate the estimate and a printer to print the estimate.  A phone will be needed to make calls to insurance adjusters, suppliers, and customers.    

Consultation Area

The estimator will need to consult with customers, which may be an area set up in the estimating area or a separate office area.  Some shops may even have a consulting office for claims adjusters to use when they come to your shop to generate estimates.


Advanced Training

Are you looking for advanced auto estimating training?  I have many resources on this site for you, but there are three excellent trainers/consultants in the industry are listed below for you to consider.  I’ve attended their seminars and highly recommend them to you.

  • Mike Anderson: Collision Advice www.CollisionAdvice.com
  • Dave Dunn: Masters Training Consulting  www.masters-school.com
  • Larry Montanez: P&L Consulting www.pnlestimology.com

Lesson 1 Resources

  • Lesson One Quiz – 13 Questions  Password “damagereport” one word no space
  • Who Hires Auto Estimators – Website – Additional information about a career as an auto estimator or appraiser.
  • Paint Mill Gauge – Product Resource – Gauge used to check the mill thickness of paint coatings.
  • The Filler Detector – Product Resource – Body filler gauge to check the thickness of body filler.

 

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Auto Repair Estimating Tips With Mike Anderson

December 23, 2013 by admin 1 Comment


When it comes to auto repair estimates, there are several trainers in the collision repair industry who do an excellent job of training the industry.  They are Mike Anderson, Larry Montanez, and Dave Dunn.  I have attended training events from all three of these training experts and I would not hesitate recommended them to you.

I came across this video with Mike Anderson providing auto repair estimating tips.  This video webinar will be beneficial for students attending a collision repair program, estimators in body shops, body shop managers, insurance appraisers, or anyone who wants to learn more about generating estimates.  If you are a DIY enthusiast, this webinar may not be for you or it may be too advanced for you to understand thoroughly.  However, if you’re interested to learn more about auto estimating, then I invite you to watch the video webinar below.

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This webinar is provided by ABRN and Mike Anderson with CollisionAdvice.com.  You can learn more about Mike and access the many resources he has on his website, then visit http://www.CollisionAdvice.com

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Is Your Body Shop Losing Money? Get Paid For What You Do

November 27, 2013 by admin 1 Comment


If you have to do something two or more times, your shop is losing money.  The rush job that had to be re-painted, writing supplements for hidden damage, or even having to order a $2.00 clip.  We may get paid for the additional part, but your body shop takes a hit every time something like this happens.

This video does a great job of explaining how much it may cost a shop to order a $2.00 belt molding clip.

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Of course body shops do not charge for re-painting a mis-matched car or the time it take to order additional parts, so how can we get paid for everything we have to do when properly repairing a car.  Well, it’s important for shops today to reduce the time spent doing the things that don’t pay.  Of course, there are going to be supplements and things are not always going to go perfect in the body and paint shop.  However, the more time spent writing the estimate to find the hidden damage and blue printing the vehicle will reduce the non-paid tasks.  Sure, it’s going to take more time upfront, but it will save time overall.

Want to learn more about blue printing a vehicle?  Check out this webinar video provided by I-CAR and ABRn on this topic.  It is about 1 hour long, but time well spent if you are a shop owner or manager.

  • Blueprinting Best Practices 

You may also be interested in these other auto estimating posts.

  • Auto Repair Estimating Training
  • Inspecting A Car Before Writing an Estimate
  • Developing A Repair Plan
  • Rising Costs of Car Parts
  • 5 Steps For Inspecting Air Bags
  • Understanding Auto Insurance

 

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Auto Repair Estimates – 4 Tips To Help You Sell More Jobs To Customers

June 10, 2011 by admin 3 Comments


Tip 1: Don’t Judge Your Customers-
I think that we have all been guilty of this, but we need to work on it.  For instance, we may think a customer is getting an estimate for the insurance so they can pocket the money or go to a competitor.  We may take a look at the vehicle and determine they will not want to spend the money or don’t have the money to have the repairs performed.  For whatever reason, estimators may jump to conclusions at times and believe that this customer is a waste of their time.  Therefore, rushing the process and getting them out the door as soon as possible so they can try to make a sale with someone that is going to have repairs performed.  I am not saying that every job is right for your shop.  For instance, your body shop may not perform restoration.  The best thing to do in a situation like this is help them find a shop that will perform the work for them.

This reminds me of a story I heard from a guy named David Dykes.  One morning in 1956 a rough looking guy walked into a Cadillac dealership in Tennessee.  The guy was poorly dressed in dirty overalls, muddy boots and was wearing an old hunting cap with his hair sticking out of the sides.  He walked around the dealership for awhile, but no one came to help him.  In the meantime, the salesmen were standing over their watching him.  They were waiting for the man to leave.  However, the guy continued to look at the cars, so the manager finally told the newest salesman to go ask the bum to leave.  But instead, the salesman went over and asked the guy, can I help you.  The guy asked a few questions about the cars and the new salesman politely answered the questions.  Then the guy in the hunting cap asked, do you take cash or checks?  The salesman almost laughed, but instead, the salesman politely said, we accept cash or check.  The guy said fine, I will take a Cadillac in every color you have in stock.  The guy in the hunting cap was Elvis Presley and the new salesman sold 6 Cadillacs that day.  So the salesman’s kindness paid off.  And perhaps your kindness may pay off too.  You may not accidental sale a repair job to a celebrity as in this story, but you may make a sale.  Perhaps the customer was planning to take the car somewhere else to have the repairs made, but with your sales ability, the customer decided to trust you and leave their car with you.

Tip 2: Don’t Assume You Know What The Customer Wants-
I have mentioned you need to sale the customer on the benefits, but don’t assume every customer will see the same things as a benefit.  For example, we used the car wash.  That may be the sale for one customer, but perhaps another customer already knows  this service is provided at other body shops.  Therefore, they don’t really see that as a benefit that sets your shop apart from the others.  So how are you going to know what motivates your customer?  It is simple; you ask them…or sometimes just listen.  Many times the customer will want to explain their situation to you.  The absolute worse thing you can do is cut them off.  Sure you hear the same stories over and over, but if you will listen close, the customer may say little things, which are their hot spot.  For example, the customer may express a big concern of how they are going to get to work while their vehicle is being repaired.  If you have loaner cars; sale them on providing them with a car.  Or how you are going to contact the insurance company and rental company for them so they will not have to worry about it.  But don’t make this your one and only sales pitch for every customer.  Perhaps the customer has 4 other cars to drive.  In that case, a rental car is not going to be a hot spot.  So work on selling the benefit to your customers, but if you find a hot spot, make that your focus.

Tip 3: Don’t Be To Helpful-
I remember one time I wanted to purchase a new computer.  I had already done the research and knew exactly what I wanted.  I walked into the store with every intention to buy a new Mac computer.  I walked in and a salesman greeted me and asked if he could help me.  I told him I was interested in a Mac computer.  The guy was nice and tried to be helpful and explained how Mac’s were much more expensive than many of their other computers they had in stock. He explained everything wrong with a MAC and kept suggesting different computers.  However, what he didn’t know is that I was already sold on the MovieMaker program Mac offers and that was the main reason I wanted the computer.  He did not know because he did not ask.  He was trying hard to make a sale, but I had to politely tell him, I was still thinking about it.  I left the store a little confused…do I want a MAC or not?  I thought about it for several days and decided to go ahead and purchase what I had originally intended.  In fear of this salesman trying to sale me something economical, I went to another store to make the purchase.  I am sure the salesman sincerely believed every customer’s biggest concern was the price.  Which price is a concern of mine, but my biggest concern was something else….that only MAC offered.

Tip 4: Make The Sale Early and Often, But Know When To Stop-
We’ve already discussed a method to sale the customer.  If you remember from earlier articles, you can try to make the sale before the auto estimate has ever been written.  When the sale has been made….stop!  Do not think you have to continue to sale every benefit your company has to offer them.  They are sold and now they want service.  If the customer authorizes you to do the repairs, take your salesman cap off and put your customer service cap on.

It’s Like Going To The Grocery Store – A Little Bonus!
These are a few general tips for you to consider.  Every body shop business is going to have their own methods and ways of doing things.  Just keep in mind, if the body shop is going to make money, sales have to be made.  I once heard an analogy that I would like to pass on.  Advice is like going to the grocery store.  When people give you advice, including me, use what works.  If it does not work for your needs or your business, don’t use it.  But, ALWAYS listen to others and determine if it right for you or not.  When you go to the grocery store, you certainly don’t want to put every item in your basket do you?  No, you get the things you need and leave the things you don’t need on the shelves.  On the flip side, you don’t want to leave the store every time with nothing in the basket either.  So when someone is trying to give you advice, is your basket too full, just right or empty?

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Auto Repair Estimates – Making a Career From Writing Auto Repair Estimates

November 30, 2010 by Donnie Smith 3 Comments




What is an estimator?
An estimator is a person that writes auto repair estimates on vehicles that have been involved in an accident. The estimator must understand the basic car design and know the nomenclature of a vehicle. The estimator must also have good communication skills as they deal with customers on a daily basis. Not only does the estimator have to communicate with customers, but they will also be the contact person for the insurance companies, shop managers, and the shop foreman or technicians. Therefore, communications is a must for an auto estimator. This career pathway is definitely for a people person. In fact, I would even say that a person that writes auto repair estimates for a auto body repair center needs to be part salesman. It is their job to sell them self, the company, the technicians, and the service that the shop provides. Not all technicians make good estimators, but it is a good idea for the estimator to have experience as a technician. Although, there have been people hired without experience and trained by the shop to write estimates.

Who Hires Estimators?
There are two different industries that hire auto estimators. One is auto body repair shops and the other is insurance companies. This can also split into other categories in each industry. Collision shops can be dealerships, franchise shops, or independent shops. Some insurance companies hire their own auto estimators, while other insurance companies hire independent auto estimators. When you write estimates for the insurance company your title may be an auto appraiser instead of an auto estimator.

What Can An Auto Repair Estimator expect to earn?
This can vary on your experience and if you work for a small body shop or a insurance company. However, according to O*Net the national median for an Auto Damage Appraiser is $53,440 and had a growth rate of 7% to 10% in a ten year period. (2006 – 2016) Some collision repair centers will pay their estimators a salary and a percentage of every job that they sell. Therefore, the more estimate sales that the estimator produce, the more income he or she can earn if on one of these types bonus incentives.
What is the first step to becoming an auto estimator?
The first thing you will need is to learn is the basics. You can do this by enrolling in a collision repair program. Many local community and junior colleges offer these programs. This will allow you to learn the basics about the entire industry. Everything from the body repair, structural or frame repair to painting. Most programs incorporate a basic estimating course within the auto program. This will give you a taste of the industry and determine where you fit in best at. You may decide to become a collision or paint technician instead of a person that writes estimates.  Whatever you decide, this training is the first step to securing a job in the auto collision repair or estimating careers. Some insurance companies require that you have a bachelor degree, but many do not. Experience hold a lot of weight with insurance companies as well. The training is your foundation and how you build the building is up to you. What I mean is, once you have your basics down, you have many opportunities and directions to explore.

Where do I find a facility to gain the training?
The best training for your money is going to be at a junior or community college. Community colleges normally focus on smaller groups, which offers lower student per instructor ratio. This leads to a deeper level of learning. They also receive state and federal funding, which allows them to offer quality programs at a much lower cost to the student. Other training facilities include technical schools and private owned schools. Check with your local community college to see if they offer collision repair. If not, ask them if there is a nearby tech school that does. Chances are that they will know where to point you in the right direction. Once enrolled in a collision repair program, you will be on your way to a career as a person that writes auto repair estimates or many other career pathways that collision repair has to offer.




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